This partnership between the two is fascinating. However, I can’t seem to wrap my head around the fact that Andrus wants to die. He is living his fantasies and is clearly enjoying himself, so why put an end to all that?
Note, too, that these last several panels appear to be largely flashback and background…note DE’s comments in the pirate frame.
But, yes, right now Andrus’ death wish seems rather peculiar. One thing we don’t know…altho it’s also suggested…is that Andrus might be virtually immortal. That does give a logic for this: he gets *tired* of life.
In a very Amber-like sense, for those Zelazny fans…Andrus might actually be the true Charlie Prime, and our Charlie is the ‘first reflection’.
I love the notion behind Andrus. Can’t wait to find out the story behind why they don’t muck around in time as much anymore. There is bound to be more to it than just that seemingly throw away line.
Hey, this page helps confirm something else I was thinking about. One of the things I was wrong about was I believed Leo at first when he said time travel didn’t exist (silly, silly me). I assumed there would only be time travel to universes that are at different times, but not different times within universes. One of the reasons I thought that is because time travel creates messier stories and messy paradoxes, which happens to be the reason most physicists say time travel to the past is physically impossible (and yes, a part of my brain still expects the so-far-unviolated laws of physics to still apply in a comic that includes magic rocks, sue me). But then I remembered that the Many Worlds Theory actually resolved paradoxes such as the Grandfather Paradox. It says that if you go back in time and kill your grandfather, then a new universe is created where your grandfather dies and you were never born, but the universe where you were born still exists.
So I was thinking Andrus had to have traveled to a different universe somehow, not his own past, because DE showed up in the place he traveled to, but wasn’t in his past when he first tried to kill himself. But the recent comics seem to indicate that he only time travels within universes, not between universes. Then I remembered the Many Worlds solution to the Grandfather Paradox, and then it hit me: when Andrus traveled to the past, he created a new universe, and DE entered the new universe but not the old one! DE’s statement on this page, that time travel does something to the worlds, seems to confirm this.
I’m presuming that in his research for this comic, Lord Baileymort researched not only Quantum Suicide but the Many Worlds response to time travel. Or maybe Baileymort didn’t research this solution, or decided not to use it, and what I’ve just said is all flutternutter on sardines sandwich thingamajigy–uh, what punx said. 😛 Only time will tell.
P.S. I was always disappointed there weren’t more nerdy Charlies, in case that’s not obvious. 😛 They’re my audience surrogate. I’d like to see more nerdy Charlies. Or more Charlenes. Ooh, we can haz nerdy Charlene plz?
P.P.S. I realize my post is probably pretty hard to understand if you don’t already know what I’m talking about, so feel free to ask if you want something clarified. Googling “Grandfather Paradox” should help.
Kate, my wife in another life….I think you might have another suitor for my dark and twisted heart LOL
(Of course, I am assuming Aroel is a female based upon wantsing to haz more nerdly CharChars prettsy plz 😉 (I am not making fun, I still love going to Icanhascheezburger.com for the LOLcats 🙂 )…and if I’m wrong…..at this point in my life, it matters not LOL)
And……..LORD BAILEYMORT!!! Don’t think your almost blatant absence from this particular line(s) of reasoning since it began has not been noted (and assumed that you’re either too busy lettering future pages, which is highly improbable IMHO, or you are putting so many of your fingers somewhere near your nose that you don’t have any left for typing LOL)
My research in crafting the larger arcs included methodologies of time travel, quantum suicide, and the many worlds interpretation, among others, so I am familiar with them all, and all were considered in creating Andrus and his role.
Andrus has a very specific way he manipulates time. We will later learn exactly what it is, whether it is a split that creates two realities, or a simple trick back in time, or some third thing (it’s a mix of one of the common interpretations and a third thing I believe relatively unique that will be explored through narrative… no one’s happened upon it yet.)
I have created a framework, and intentionally so, where you can have a grandfather paradox and defeat one, depending on what power set we’re talking about, though the ins and outs of it are yet to be seen. There are hints, but these are chess pieces being set in motion for a specific game that will unravel as the story progresses.
Based upon our little commentary run a couple updates ago, I can almost say that this is the best tapdance job I’ve seen since the late Gregory Hines LOL
That’s our Lord BaileyMort, folks, accept no substitutes!
Thank you, thank you, I’m here till relative then, try the veal! LOL 😀
Well, it will be interesting to see just how he ended up in his current iteration, looking like he stepped out of a steampunk novel…
I’ve always wished I had the ability to breach time and space just to have a pocket universe I could leave things in, like DE put his gun somewhere before he started telling Coma Charlie the highlights from ‘When DE Met Andrus’ 😉 or at least the ability to reach back home when I forget something, like an envelope on the table or something LOL
If anything, this gives Andrus a new lease on life, but he can’t return to any of his fantasy existences without DE’s anchors, and DE can’t manipulate time without him, so they’re kind of stuck together.
Andrus is such a little kid! I find his time-traveling adventure partnership with the Dark Everett simultaneously adorable and horrifying.
This partnership between the two is fascinating. However, I can’t seem to wrap my head around the fact that Andrus wants to die. He is living his fantasies and is clearly enjoying himself, so why put an end to all that?
Note, too, that these last several panels appear to be largely flashback and background…note DE’s comments in the pirate frame.
But, yes, right now Andrus’ death wish seems rather peculiar. One thing we don’t know…altho it’s also suggested…is that Andrus might be virtually immortal. That does give a logic for this: he gets *tired* of life.
In a very Amber-like sense, for those Zelazny fans…Andrus might actually be the true Charlie Prime, and our Charlie is the ‘first reflection’.
Huh, and all this time everybody assumed Andrus was just the evil Charlie who dressed funny.
I love the notion behind Andrus. Can’t wait to find out the story behind why they don’t muck around in time as much anymore. There is bound to be more to it than just that seemingly throw away line.
Probably because it made for happy Charlies who didn’t want to commit suicide. Or sex world. XD
Hey, this page helps confirm something else I was thinking about. One of the things I was wrong about was I believed Leo at first when he said time travel didn’t exist (silly, silly me). I assumed there would only be time travel to universes that are at different times, but not different times within universes. One of the reasons I thought that is because time travel creates messier stories and messy paradoxes, which happens to be the reason most physicists say time travel to the past is physically impossible (and yes, a part of my brain still expects the so-far-unviolated laws of physics to still apply in a comic that includes magic rocks, sue me). But then I remembered that the Many Worlds Theory actually resolved paradoxes such as the Grandfather Paradox. It says that if you go back in time and kill your grandfather, then a new universe is created where your grandfather dies and you were never born, but the universe where you were born still exists.
So I was thinking Andrus had to have traveled to a different universe somehow, not his own past, because DE showed up in the place he traveled to, but wasn’t in his past when he first tried to kill himself. But the recent comics seem to indicate that he only time travels within universes, not between universes. Then I remembered the Many Worlds solution to the Grandfather Paradox, and then it hit me: when Andrus traveled to the past, he created a new universe, and DE entered the new universe but not the old one! DE’s statement on this page, that time travel does something to the worlds, seems to confirm this.
I’m presuming that in his research for this comic, Lord Baileymort researched not only Quantum Suicide but the Many Worlds response to time travel. Or maybe Baileymort didn’t research this solution, or decided not to use it, and what I’ve just said is all flutternutter on sardines sandwich thingamajigy–uh, what punx said. 😛 Only time will tell.
P.S. I was always disappointed there weren’t more nerdy Charlies, in case that’s not obvious. 😛 They’re my audience surrogate. I’d like to see more nerdy Charlies. Or more Charlenes. Ooh, we can haz nerdy Charlene plz?
P.P.S. I realize my post is probably pretty hard to understand if you don’t already know what I’m talking about, so feel free to ask if you want something clarified. Googling “Grandfather Paradox” should help.
Kate, my wife in another life….I think you might have another suitor for my dark and twisted heart LOL
(Of course, I am assuming Aroel is a female based upon wantsing to haz more nerdly CharChars prettsy plz 😉 (I am not making fun, I still love going to Icanhascheezburger.com for the LOLcats 🙂 )…and if I’m wrong…..at this point in my life, it matters not LOL)
And……..LORD BAILEYMORT!!! Don’t think your almost blatant absence from this particular line(s) of reasoning since it began has not been noted (and assumed that you’re either too busy lettering future pages, which is highly improbable IMHO, or you are putting so many of your fingers somewhere near your nose that you don’t have any left for typing LOL)
My research in crafting the larger arcs included methodologies of time travel, quantum suicide, and the many worlds interpretation, among others, so I am familiar with them all, and all were considered in creating Andrus and his role.
Andrus has a very specific way he manipulates time. We will later learn exactly what it is, whether it is a split that creates two realities, or a simple trick back in time, or some third thing (it’s a mix of one of the common interpretations and a third thing I believe relatively unique that will be explored through narrative… no one’s happened upon it yet.)
I have created a framework, and intentionally so, where you can have a grandfather paradox and defeat one, depending on what power set we’re talking about, though the ins and outs of it are yet to be seen. There are hints, but these are chess pieces being set in motion for a specific game that will unravel as the story progresses.
Well, as we expected, a non-denial denial 😉
Based upon our little commentary run a couple updates ago, I can almost say that this is the best tapdance job I’ve seen since the late Gregory Hines LOL
That’s our Lord BaileyMort, folks, accept no substitutes!
Thank you, thank you, I’m here till relative then, try the veal! LOL 😀
Well, it will be interesting to see just how he ended up in his current iteration, looking like he stepped out of a steampunk novel…
I’ve always wished I had the ability to breach time and space just to have a pocket universe I could leave things in, like DE put his gun somewhere before he started telling Coma Charlie the highlights from ‘When DE Met Andrus’ 😉 or at least the ability to reach back home when I forget something, like an envelope on the table or something LOL
*trip back in time, sorry. Typo, and I’m at my iPad, not my comp.
If anything, this gives Andrus a new lease on life, but he can’t return to any of his fantasy existences without DE’s anchors, and DE can’t manipulate time without him, so they’re kind of stuck together.